Thursday, March 23, 2006

Whence Came Intelligent Design?

From the choirs of Catholic elementary schools, that's whence.

Recently I was having a discussion with a friend who believes in intelligent design. My friend, Ryan, is a very bright guy - thoughtful, intelligent, opinionated - and not necessarily the type that I would peg as an ID adherent. Anyhow, in the course of our discussion he actually sang for me a song from his Catholic choirboy days. I think that the song, "I'm a K-I-D, Not a Monkey," the first verse of which is reprinted below, explains a lot:
I'm a K-I-D, Not a Monkey

Some people say
That the Bible's wrong
That the first mom and dad
Came from old King Kong.
Well I admit
A banana split
I just can't seem to get enough of it.
But that doesn't prove a thing
NO! That doesn't prove a thing
Cause God made me in His image
I'm a K-I-D, not a monkey!

Ryan was raised as a strict creationist and, in the two decades since his brainwashing via song choir days, he's migrated to a belief in evolution, but only under the watchful direction of God.

I'll bet a Ghiradelli bannana split that by the time two more decades have passed, the belief in intelligent design will have gone by the boards as well. Now if only I could set that to song...


Blogger Impatient Patient said...

Tim- You asked if I ever sang these kinds of songs...

No- thankfully I did not, and as far as I know neither did my kids. That said, I started laughing hysterically when I read that.

I am seriously not surprised by this stuff. As a kid raised fairly religious, I was taught at school that man was special. I believe that to a point- until I watch apes and monkeys play, or find out that other animals have language skills- like parrots. They do not just parrot, but can think and say complex thoughts. My Animal Kingdom Encyclopaedias were my friends as a child. I didn't know that I was reading science- I just thought I was reading cool things. I am glad I read those books, because that was about the extent of REAL science in my life until my late teens and early twenties.

I have no idea how to get that song out of my head now though....

Fri Mar 24, 08:15:00 PM EST  
Blogger Tim Kanwar said...

And I'm sure there are plenty of other people around you who are glad you read those books as well.

By the way, there's been a recent study detailing the linguistic complexities of humpback whale song if you're interested in checking it out.

My apologies if I've gotten the song stuck in your head. At least you don't know the tune which, trust me, makes the song at least ten times as difficult to purge from your brain...

Sat Mar 25, 10:51:00 AM EST  
Blogger Impatient Patient said...

About the people in my life being glad I read those books let alone any books- NOT SO MUCH.

Let me explain. My father thinks gays should be stoned because that is what they do in the bible. My mother (who is divorced from my dad) lives through church- it is her social/work life. A sibling is a medical person who believes in ID. My child is going to the church that sponsored my religious school education because that is where her friends go. Another sibling believes in Young Earth Creationism. Another sibling thinks that I have too many opinions, am too loud, and should just shut up. My signifigant other believes there is no intelligent life anywhere, let alone on this planet. That is just the beginning.

All my life I have been told not to read so much. I have been told that by family friends doctors religious people ummm.... There are so many categories of people including educators of adults.

So- I live in my small part of the world,that those I love but do not get call Utopia, and I just think everyone is pretty much insane. I would rather read than clean. If I can read and learn all the better.

My parents used to take all my books away as a child for punishment- except the bible. That probably wasn't smart. I read the thing, because it was words on paper. I started questioning. People told me I read too much and just didn't understand the context. I tried, but even the context didn't make sense.

I have played yo-yo with religion for thirty years now. I love Christmas. Easter not so much. I love the community aspect- except when one disagrees. I love the ritual- except when you see banged up runners under a religious robe. THere the magic is broken, and I realize we are JUST human.

Even my signifigant other believes I read too much- but that is only because the house suffers- LOL!!

So no- I can honestly say that if I didn't read so much I would have had a much calmer life.

I would probably be a happier parson, and KNOW that God was going to save me from-----------whatever here---------and I could just rest on that. I just never once, even when religious, felt that way.

Do I argue religio/ID/Creationism? Yes. Am I told I am going to hell- yes. Do I care anymore- nah.

I just keep reading.

Sat Mar 25, 07:06:00 PM EST  
Blogger Tim Kanwar said...

Good for you, keep on reading.

You know the saying "ignorance is bliss?" More completely, the lines from Thomas Gray are as follows:

“Thought would destroy their paradise! / No more; where ignorance is bliss / 'Tis folly to be wise.”
- Thomas Gray

It is an unfortunate aspect of our world today, in my opinion, that those words ring too true to too many people. Personally, I prefer the advice of Socrates, who on trial in the Apology declared that "...the unexamined life is not worth living for men.”

It sounds like you do as well. Kudos.

- Socrates[2]

Sat Mar 25, 10:39:00 PM EST  

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